Sweeping Generalizations with Blockhead: Get Off Lil' Wayne's D*@&

Posted on 12/06/2008

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Just a little note before you read this...I just wanna clarify two things to both the pro and con Lil' Wayne parties....

 

Wayne fans: This is not about him being a pop-star mainstream rapper, I have no issue with that. This is not an underground rap guys vendetta against all things popular.


Wayne Haters: This is not some shit where your response should be "Yeah! fuck all that pop shit!" that kind of thinking is lame and also holds no weight to me. This is strictly a fan of rap music talking about the skill level of a rapper. I like Rakim. I like Mystikal. I like Aesop, and I like T.I.. Talent is talent and a good song is a good song.

 

 


 

 

I tend to try and avoid much music talk here cause, honestly, I don't keep up with enough new music to really care and I also get the feeling none of you really wanna hear it. However, there has been something bubbling up over the past two years or so that needs to be addressed. To some of you, this will be a no brainer and, to others, you will disagree with me like I just called your mom a whore. But, whatever the case, this must be said...


 

Lil'  Wayne is bullshit.
 Fuck Lil' Wayne, he's simply not that good.

 

 


 

 

I could just leave it there and move on, but this motherfucker won't go away. The thing is, it's not like some pop sensation that is obviously bad but only liked by teenagers. This dude is the most loved retard on the planet.


-Hipsters love him

-Mainstream rap fans love him

-And, most shockingly,
underground rap heads like him too.



I feel about Wayne the same way I feel about The Family Guy. In it's essence, Family Guy is harmless and not terrible. I don't hate it, but I just think it's kinda obvious and not that funny. Then, people I know and respect made such a big deal about how great it was, that I had to re-check it and look a little deeper into what the fuss was about. In the case of Family Guy, I found what I had already thought was there, A one joke show that has occasionally funny moments. In the case of Lil'  Wayne, I'm just dumbfounded.


 

 


 

 

For as long as I've been listening to hip hop, I'd say I have a decent grasp on what is good and bad about an MC, obviously, it's all opinion but I mean in the most basic sense. For Instance, "his flow is on beat" or "he is clever". To me, Lil Wayne is a mediocre underground rapper, he's not bad, he says some funny lines at times (as well as cringe inducing stupid lines) but he's just nothing special. He's a punchline based MC who sounds like he should never have made it off the mixtape circuit.

 

Whenever I discuss this with Wayne fans they bring up two things
:


1.) His Voice

2.) He's a weirdo



While, his voice is indeed interesting, I also find it insanely annoying and whiny. Wayne basically raps in baby talk. I will give it to him, he's got an original voice, but "original" doesn't always mean "good". The lead singer of "the crash test dummies" has an original voice...and I doubt any would argue against the fact that he sucks.

 

 


 


As for being a weirdo, it's actually refreshing to see a rapper, in today's fucked up copy cat market, being different. In Wayne's case, being different means dressing like an uber homo hipster/rocker and being REALLY high all the time. He does say some off the wall kool kiethe-sque shit, being really high tends to bring that out of people. But what separates him from Kool Keith is that Kool Keith is actually crazy. He's not normal.

 

 

 

I'm not buying it from Wayne, he's way more just plain "dumb" then he is "avante guard" or "strange". We all have known that guy who is as dumb as a pile of bricks, who would get stoned and say crazy off the wall shit. That guy isn't a genius, he's slow and his brain can't handle deep thoughts so it spits out random nuggets of nonsense that HAPPEN to be funny. Wayne is the rap equivalent to that guy.

 

 


 


Part of being a weirdo is also being unlike others, this is where Wayne loses this case hands down, cause that motherfucker is a BITER. He literally rhymes like older Jay-Z. From the flow patterns - to where he enunciates words, he obviously studied jay intensely and copied. That is the opposite of original. I do give him credit for moving away from his earlier "bling bling" era image and focusing on getting better at his craft. There's no argument here that he has vastly improved since he first came out with the Cash Money Millionaires but even with that improvement, he's still just Lil Wayne.

 

 


 

 

I think the most annoying facet of all this is his fans. In the case of the mainstream hip hop peoplem - it's expected. They like anything they hear on the radio and are willing to make fucktards such as MIMS and Rich Boy famous. Lil Wayne seems like Rakim compared to those two.

If I bumped that kinda shit all day and then heard wayne, I'd lose my shit too.

 

 


 

 

The underground love is confusing though. I feel as if, in hip hop's current state, there's a strong underground hip hop backlash going on. All these former nerd rap fans wanna reject the shit they came up on by embracing some shit they hated less then a year ago. It's as if they feel like they are redeeming themselves from ever being nerds. The thing is, these heads should know better if you're deeply immersed in hip hop, you know what's original and what a good MC sounds like. These heads, more then anyone, are aware of that kinda shit so for them to just latch on to wayne like he's this gifted artist, makes no sense.


 

With the hipsters, it's almost offensive.

 

 


 

 

See, hipsters stopped giving a shit about hip hop a long time ago. That's fine I can't hate on that at all, hip hop is pretty boring right now. But they do this thing (it's weirdly racist to me but I can't quite put my finger on how) where they always have one rapper they claim to still love. Before wayne, it was The Clipse and that was good cause they're actually really dope. Before that, it was Cam'ron. I was with this one as well cause he was funny, I've actually laughed out loud to some of his lines. There was an irony there that made sense and, on top of that, he made some good songs. But Lil Wayne?

 

 


 

 

You motherfuckers are seriously reaching. I don't care how many studded bracelets he wears, how many non-sensical verses he makes rapped through auto-tune (still?!?!?!), how many shitty club hooks he comes up with over terrible beats, or how many "Street" tracks he makes rapping over some awesome old sample that no one else can afford to use. He's still just Lil' Wayne, he is not the greatest rapper alive, he's not remotely close. He's a semi-ok underground battle rapper who is, in all likelihood, seriously learning disabled.

 

 


 

Comments

i totally agree with this

Posted on Wed, 01/27/2010 - 03:44 by: thurgood jenkins (not verified)

i totally agree with this post except for one thing, unlike blockhead i think lil wayne is completly talentless and unoriginal in every way. never understood the following he has.....puzzles me. word to blockhead
glad someone said something cause i was starting to feel like the only human to not like this dude.

Good read, fair comments. I

Posted on Sun, 01/17/2010 - 08:28 by: Cubanpete (not verified)

Good read, fair comments. I guess its just the world we live in.

ayo dude, i most def agree

Posted on Sat, 01/16/2010 - 06:50 by: Remedia (not verified)

ayo dude,
i most def agree with you,
i listen to wu-tang clan, biggie, and Nas <3
and honestly i really don't see the big deal with this
dude ya kno?
yeah he's "alright", but people claiming
him as tha best, is way outta line!!
i gotcha back (;
lol

<3
xoxo

get a life...short n

Posted on Sat, 12/19/2009 - 22:48 by: Anonymous (not verified)

get a life...short n simple..y tha hell yu care wat wayne doin..we kno wuss in your styrofoam cup...HATERADE

sooo... look where he

Posted on Fri, 12/18/2009 - 20:59 by: Anonymous (not verified)

sooo...
look where he is...
and look where you are...
He's ruling the rap world
while you sit home and hate
he wins
that is all.

RETARDS

Posted on Mon, 11/16/2009 - 21:23 by: GUIDO (not verified)

OK YOU ALL DONT LIKE LIL WAYNE. W.E. YOU HATE HIM SO MUCH YOU WENT OUT OF YOUR WAY TO CREATE THIS PAGE.. BRAVO.. WHO'S THE FREAKIN RETARD?? HMMM ALL OF YOU WANNA SIT THERE AND CRITICIZE HIM LIKE IF YOU WERE ANY BETTER THAN HIM. LET ME SEE YOU GET OUT THERE AND DO WHAT HE DOES. PROVE ME WRONG AND SHUT ME UP.. YOU ALL ARE THE APITAMY OF IGNORANCE!!!

DAYHUMMMMMMM

Posted on Thu, 12/17/2009 - 22:09 by: STEPH (not verified)

DAYHUMMMMMMMMM MAYNE YHU FUKEN BURNED DOSZE BITHESZ.! IM ON YHUR SIDE SHYT.!

If anyone wants to hear some

Posted on Sat, 11/14/2009 - 04:17 by: J Lund (not verified)

If anyone wants to hear some trill shit a real musician and master of rap....PIMP C everyone goes off that G he produced the music, made the beats, and spit sick lines along with Bun B lil waynes alright but we need to stop and give the respect Pimp C deserves caz wayne wouldnt be anything without PImp

hahahah

Posted on Fri, 11/13/2009 - 15:41 by: Dairyn Gynesis Lynn (not verified)

HA funny. I am a FAN of lil wayne. I honestly can't believe someone would take the time to make a fucking whole web site about him....ha I guess he just that famous.Soo next time I would consider ending your network....

Dairyn<3

hit me up on facebook if you got a prob.

Word

Posted on Sun, 05/31/2009 - 10:30 by: flight (not verified)

i kinda agree with this post but i think it has more to do with your taste in music then lil wayne. i mean i think he is actually really creative and really gifted. i feel he worked hard on his craft an is definantly one of the most talented rappers actually doin shit in the "mainstreme". he is very visual with his rhymes an finds creative ways to say what he says even better then alot of "hardcore underground" "here to save hiphop" rappers. i jus dont like what he has to say and that makes me not buy his albums or get all happy about his new songs.

also, every teenage girl is

Posted on Sun, 05/10/2009 - 05:27 by: Anony mouse (not verified)

also, every teenage girl is obsessed with him. its mad annoying. they are like "omg i love him hes so sexy".. not trying to hate but i think he looks like a cockroach.

HATER

Posted on Sun, 11/08/2009 - 13:51 by: Anonymous (not verified)

LILWAYNE IS SO FUCKING SO DON'T BE NO HATER

the only reason people say

Posted on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 15:37 by: Anonymous (not verified)

the only reason people say wayne is the best is because he freestyles ALL of his songs, he doesn't write one thing down, he just simply goes into the studio and just raps...

jay-z has been doing that

Posted on Tue, 11/24/2009 - 22:09 by: Anonymous (not verified)

jay-z has been doing that for years.....

Lil wayne is not underground

Posted on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 21:11 by: Bethy Rhae (not verified)

I don't care what battles lil wayne might have participated in b4 he hit main stream, he is not an underground artist! It takes a vocabulary of more than just (pill-popper), (G), and (i'm the best) to create the lyrical imagery and twisted metaphors of underground artist today! Plus how are you gonna consider him or t-pain underground when they will ride as many dicks as it takes to get on the next "Got Milk Commercial". C'mon, the music that i listen to, such as, cool calm pete, busdriver, aesop, all the def jux guys, makes the listener think and experiment with the metaphorical word play and spark interest to read between the lines.
As a visual artist myself, i believe that music is a form of art and/or expression, not a way for some "gangsta" to get a million off talking about his cars and his bitches ass. I'm absolutely sick of guys like lil'wayne goin around saying that they are the best new artist. because they are not artist at all, just dance music makers for the mindless corporate followers. Peace to the open-minded!

Lil wayne is not underground

Posted on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 21:02 by: Bethy Rhae (not verified)

I don't care what battles lil wayne might have participated in b4 he hit main stream, he is not an underground artist! It takes a vocabulary of more than just (pill-popper), (G), and (i'm the best) to create the lyrical imagery and twisted metaphors of underground artist today! Plus how are you gonna consider him or t-pain underground when they will ride as many dicks as it takes to get on the next "Got Milk Commercial". C'mon, the music that i listen to, such as, cool calm pete, busdriver, aesop, all the def jux guys, makes the listener think and experiment with the metaphorical word play and spark interest to read between the lines.
As a visual artist myself, i believe that music is a form of art and/or expression, not a way for some "gangsta" to get a million off talking about his cars and his bitches ass. I'm absolutely sick of guys like lil'wayne goin around saying that they are the best new artist. because they are not artist at all, just dance music makers for the mindless corporate followers. Peace to the open-minded!

The real issue is...

Posted on Wed, 12/31/2008 - 05:57 by: David Zemler (not verified)

I'm commenting on this post a bit late, but there is one thing that I'd like to get off my chest: the attention to haters ratio. I am in agreement with Blockhead in the sense that I recognize Lil' Wayne as a talented artist, but as one that hasn't merited the hype and fawning masses that currently surround him.

Inevitably, our media will pile hype upon particular artists within any genre - it's a necessary function for them, even though a vast swath of the population realizes that it's bullshit. Sometimes these artists will merit the attention lavished upon them; oftentimes they won't. I remember an individual that mentioned DMX as an example for the undeservedly hyped-up MC who received accolades within a short period of time, but who fell rapidly from the public conscience after it was realized (even among the mainstream heads) that he just wasn't that good of a rapper.

Basically, what I'm saying is that Lil Wayne is talented in some respects (as many MCs are). But the level of praise that's been leveled upon him in recent times is ridiculous. For example, a few hip-hop heads (for some reason) talk up Lil Wayne as some sort of a savior - then, a few people take this message in and spread it to others. Or, more annoyingly, Pitchfork gives Lil Wayne a glowing review, and a bunch of hipster fuckfaces go around proclaiming his status as a savior when they are in reality a bunch of privileged assholes who are far too detached from reality to even think about providing commentary on such a gritty art form as hip-hop.

Ok, this is getting too long and verbose. The past three paragraphs, in case you scrolled down and didn't want to listen to my crazy ass is: Lil Wayne does not completely suck, but he is criminally overrated. If this was the mid-90s and Pac and Big were still alive, there would be no place for Lil Waybe. He wouldn't have a fucking sliver of a chance.

I Agreee

Posted on Mon, 12/29/2008 - 02:03 by: DJ JAMAD (not verified)

I agree 1000% percent if that were possible. Wayne is EMPTY on lyrical substance but FuLL of syrup! Also, If we can only get New York artist to stop making trashy music as well. Make real Hip Hop underground or commercial that people like! This Ron Browz crap is the worst! It sickens me. Busta Stop man! You fucking up your legacy now. Don't do like Micheal Jordan.

Good Hip Hop right here!

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preech

Posted on Wed, 12/24/2008 - 07:36 by: z27 (not verified)

thank you jesus someone finally brought this up the thing that pisses me off the most is that if lil wayne died tomorrow everybody would be on his dick like he was tupac and since it was brought up i got to say i hate when them stupid ass "hipsters" say they like old school hip hop if ur a little stupid ass white skater loookin kid in some tight ass jeans that ur trying to sag in and a pink t shirt dont tell me u like old school rap and i say white cuz most of them are and it makes the rest of us white people look stupid now i like old school rap but ive been listening to it for most of my life (and i like some of the new stuff too) but you just started listening to the shit last week and they all listen to the same shit its always some late 80's new york rap like public enemy or a tribe called quest or something and the only new stuff they listen to is garbage like n.e.r.d. or gym class heros or some shit like that

you're way off man

Posted on Tue, 12/23/2008 - 21:05 by: Anonymous (not verified)

little wayne constantly does brilliant stuff, sure its sorta subtle, much like jay-z. and it's wayne who is being ironic most of the time, dipshit, not the uber geniuses listening to him. in fact if you got out your ivory tower to see how BAD hip hop was getting raped right around the time wayne blew up you'd maybe respect how all this is in the context of the era subsequent to the one where all your arguments would apply? and oh yeah i love your "mediocre" stuff wrt talent whatever. you ever heard that one song, on the carter, that is like 7 minutes long or something and he just goes off? he's as innately talented as a rapper as anyone i've ever heard in my life, unfortunate he makes a lot of pop shit. but uhhh yeah. EVERYONE who listens to hip hop was a bit surprised when they guy from the "bling bling" song turned out to be a genius, but you should probably just sorta get used to the fact like everyone else did!

and BTW, anyone who was lame enough to listen to "the clipse" at any point in their lives, please disregard everything *I* just said and let this dim-witted fellow tell you what's what...

Damn. Couldn't agree more.

Posted on Sat, 12/20/2008 - 22:08 by: TremorsAudio (not verified)

Damn.
Couldn't agree more.

Freud

Posted on Thu, 12/18/2008 - 03:33 by: 505 (not verified)

Coming from a "hipster,"the reason I listen to Wayne (only his mixtapes and tha carter II) is exactly because he is so shitty and ridiculous. I guess it's part of some wierd ironic process, where it is cool to listen to bad rappers/ rappers who flow about nothing important.
I also listen to concious hip hop like Zion I and Blue Scholars, and appreciate their message much more than wayne's, but I think I am satisfying a freudian desire to listen to the trashiest rap by playing lil wayne, an Eros/Thanatos type of deal.

Lil wayne is gettin

Posted on Wed, 12/24/2008 - 11:36 by: Anonymous (not verified)

Lil wayne is gettin money.Don't u all have a life.If any1 needs to get off his d*ck its whoever wrote this blog.

Music To Consume

Posted on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 15:05 by: smellyhonkey (not verified)

Lil Wayne is simply music to consume and nothing more.
Im surprised he lived on after cash money but thats main stream music for you picked out by record company's and packaged to sell. Think about who is buying Lil Waynes music? Not hardcore hip hop fans imho.
im kinda a snob when it comes to MC Like Cage Or Rugged man they set the bar high when it comes to rhyming and neither had big marketing teams or big record labels.

Dare to Disent

Posted on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 07:21 by: The Joker (not verified)

he's a rapper. thats all. his job is to make music that a lot of people like enough to buy his album so he and his record label can make money. he does that very well. reading into it any deeper than that is a waste of time. comparing lil wayne to rakim is retarded. if he bites jay-z who gives a shit? jay is the greatest rapper alive, and he took a lot of his style from biggie. and it made him great. nothin wrong with lil wayne doin it as well. im not a wayne fan, and im not a wayne hater. what i do hate is when people try to make themselves look smart by dropping a bunch of random facts that really have nothing to do with a particular subject and stretch their minds as far as they can to tie the 2 things together. half of the people that read this probably have never heard of crash test dummies, and family guy is a hilarious show. if you cant find humor in family guy then it makes sense why you wouldn't like a lil wayne song....i mean come on......why so serious? the fact of the matter is that hip hop is dying...i say dying because i hate to admit that its already dead. but the thing that keeps it alive are the artists that dare to go against whats popular by trying to keep themselves unique from the mainstream. lil wayne has yet to come out with a dance...just like luda, ti, jay, outkast, mos def and a handful of others that are trying to keep hip hop alive. hip hop is hip hop because those innovators like run dmc, rakim, ll, cube, krs one and those cats dared to be different. whats so different now? im not sayin that lil wayne is the savior of hip hop by any means. i'm just saying that it was the rappers that werent like the rest that made hip hop what we fell in love with back in the day. holla

Lil Wang

Posted on Fri, 12/12/2008 - 04:05 by: Sandman (not verified)

Lil is not a played out adjective in hip hop aliasing yet is it?

you fucking tell them

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 22:36 by: Al-P (not verified)

you fucking tell them blockhead!
one of my ethnic studies classes is the "evolution of hip hop" and almost everyone in there is on waynes nuts...i myself, not on his nuts, but give him props for doing something different- whether its garbage or not, its different from young-jeezy-cent-diddy(what does he call himself nowadays?)-west MTV crapshit..although give it a few months and well have about 20 more waynes on our hands and thus the lemming cycle continues

Downtown Scions

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 10:32 by: Paul Mall (not verified)

Whatup Blocky? You made some great points and lyrically, most of what Wayne spits is garbage (check his new song with T-Pain). From what I understand, most of it is word associated, however. Which makes sense because I'm just about as bad when I'm pulling shit out of thin air after smoking a blunt or drinking some cough syrup. However, there are a few songs that I would say are good, if not legit. For example, check his appearance on Bun B's newer Trilla 2 cd ("Damn I'm Cold" is the title). I also like "The Block is Hot" and that wheezy phone home joint is catchy in the strangest way. It's grown on me. Now, do I appreciate him as an artist like, say, RA or Public Enemy? Not at all. But a couple of songs on my hard drive to throw on playlists when I'm hanging out with people who like him suffice. (which of us doesn't know one person into the Wayne?)

Either way, don't sweat it. We all know you're the goods.

This is my xbox live gamer tag

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 09:03 by: xClayPidgeoNx (not verified)

When I listen to the radio I listen to rock. My responsible old man honda accord is equipped with a pioneer avic d3 deck feeding two jbl amplifiers that power six jbl speakers, all of wich i personally installed so cost stayed down under three grand total. 371 def jux songs make my car sound like it's falling apart thanks to my ipod run by touch screen. Lil wayne doesn't touch my car. I'm not a fucking hipster but i have hipster aquaintances and none of them like lil wayne. maybe LA is different. i don't like my mindless rap talking about throwing money at women. i personally have thrown money at women for pussy and even lied to them and i felt like a total douchebag for it. they were some good looking women though, but being from LA i should have known better. I'm white and i also do hear the metal kids say they're favorite rap group is nwa, but they broke boundaries. kids are dumb, i liked vanilla ice and mc hammer when they first broke. i was 13 and old people talked about how music had gone to shit and de la and tribe had no talent. they just recycled old groove and soul joints from the 70's and talked for three minutes. three minutes of tip and fife talked my whole lifetime and i was a little confused as to why sorry ass dr dre made more money than the native tongues. i was 15 when the chronic came out and i didn't understand how an artist who blew me away with 187 on an undercover made such shitty music about gin and juice. and then i started smoking weed and drinking vodka and it suddenly became apparent, but i never considered that skill like with 187. then i heard dr dre tell snoop that he smoked too much crack when they hosted yo mtv raps. then i actually met snoop. briefly, but he seemed pretty cool. nostalgia now, still don't really like him. jeru's first album. mass appeal. 36 chambers. inner city griots. latyrix the song. melodica black. no need for alarm. box car sessions. all balls. no need for alarm ( cause three or four months of my life were spent with a $20 walkman with the door ripped off so i could flip that tape in my pocket). blockhead... you make some dope beats and you need to tell itunes to put uncle tonys out in it's entirety, but man, mainstream is mainstream for a reason. i don't want people i don't respect bumping your shit or rapping el p lyrics cause it cheapens it for me. scenario was my favorite track off low end theory untill the dumb fuck tag banger kid who wouldn't fight me one on one sung "here we go yo". I am a nerd. i've worn the same size dickies since i was thirteen, only now they actually fit me right. I'm 31 years old now and i've listened to hip hop longer than the majority of lil waynes fan base has been alive. i got used to the idea of being out dated a long time ago and still don't give a fuck. not too many people will read this blog if yall post it but if you feel me, lil wayne's popularity is a testament to his mediocrity. after juicy i dont like biggie (so i spell it correctly) and i didn't like jay z. when i first heard jay z i thought my friend was talking about saafir's beat maker for boxcar, so i was sour from the jump. i like his beats and appreciate his efforts now but i never will be a fan. ice cube is still my favorite member of nwa and i should listen to his new album, after all he's still del's cousin. 93 till infinity. they want efx. chip fu. soul clap. next level (nyte time mix). strictly business. good lifer. i moved away from rap on the radio ever since kday went off air in 91. they replaced it with some real estate talk show stuff, fucking wierd. i thought it was a commercial and ended up listening to it for like twenty or thirty minutes until i was like "what the fuck did they do to my station". power 106 took over and played a lot of garbage. nwa was off the radio. ice cube didn't do st ides commercials no more. it's 1am in Shitty San diego and i gotta be to work at 7. i hope maybe you can relate to this rant, you make good music and def jux s hands down my current favorite label, but i am fickle.

Don't Forget the Bass

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 05:46 by: Anonymous (not verified)

I have never listened to any Lil Wayne songs, but I do remember some Del lyrics in the song, "Don't forget the bass" on the Future Development album. He says that "there's a place for everything including Hieroglyphics" Ever since hearing that song I had a new respect for Hip-Hop artists regardless if they were mainstream or underground. Artists reflect Hip-Hop in different ways, and I accept those differences.

Somebody has to say it. I

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 00:18 by: Hip-hop Anonymous (not verified)

Somebody has to say it. I mean I used to watch mtv when I was a kid, and wounder what the hell underground hip-hop consisted of whenever the term was used. I definatley think that the majority of people are just too lazy/dumb to find the good shit that they can really realate to on a personal level.
As music and progress goes I think its rediculouse how people say that hip-hop is dead when all they hear is the shit on the radio you know? I guess that part of hip is bullshit though, therefor it is dead. Man I wounder what my kid will think of rap when he gets older. I mean hopefully it will teach him instead of get in his way.

Somebody has to say it. I

Posted on Thu, 12/11/2008 - 00:15 by: Hip-hop Anonymous (not verified)

Somebody has to say it. I mean I used to watch mtv when I was a kid, and wounder what the hell underground hip-hop consisted of whenever the term was used. I definatley think that the majority of people are just too lazy/dumb to find the good shit that they can really realate to on a personal level.
As music and progress goes I think its rediculouse how people say that hip-hop is dead when all they hear is the shit on the radio you know? I guess that part of hip is bullshit though, therefor it is dead. Man I wounder what my kid will think of rap when he gets older.

Lil Wayne

Posted on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 20:04 by: The Admiral (not verified)

He is part of the machine...on the real we shouldn't even discuss this dude as we would never get an discourse on El-P on most of hte the mags he is in.....Anyone who really thinks he is dope listen to an accapela then get at your boy.

Art & Entertainment

Posted on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 17:24 by: Ominous Red (not verified)

All art is entertaining but not all entertainment can be considered art. I think Lil Wayne is clearly an entertainer and if you were to try and apply the same standards of critique against him that you would against Nas and Jay Z or Aesop, he would def be lacking.

I don't own a Lil Wayne CD but I wouldn't go as far as to say he isn't legit. This cat has put in years and his early work was heartfelt but I think he is learning to adapt and put out more of what people are responding to instead of what he feels. At the end of the day these guys are about making money instead of putting out meaningful artwork.

I think a lot of these guys out today that are major players are just new versions of Vanilla Ice. They are ore freakshow than artist merit.

wow

Posted on Wed, 12/10/2008 - 04:51 by: Bigg Thump (not verified)

blockhead... i would have written this thing first if i could have found the words that embody my feelings for mainstream hip hop. but you pretty much said it exactly how i feel. my lifes work is complete, even though someone else took care of it. anyway, thanks a lot for expressing that. all the real djx fans will attest to how you feel. big ups man.

oh, and about the sample clearance thing... you dont need any samples. you got it

I love black people!

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 23:43 by: Frank (not verified)

I love black people!

Hmmm...

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 22:02 by: StarChild629

For one reason or another I felt compelled to comment on this subject again. It might be an off-topic topic, but it seems that even though Blockhead posted this specifically in reference to Lil’ Wayne, I can’t help but believe the topic is a small facet of a larger issue with which we are all grappling. And that is the current state of hip hop music and culture as we know it. Where it has been, and where it is going (and, if you like, whether it is dead, lingering in limbo, or full of life).
I don’t know everything about hip hop. I won’t even claim to know a lot about hip hop, and I’m not a hip hop head by any means. But I do enjoy hip hop and always have, along with a wide variety of other music genres. I don’t think anyone can disagree that hip hop manifests itself in many ways, along many avenues. The core foundation of hip hop, it seems, is built on concepts of “hip-ness” meaning “in the now/in the know” “fresh” “different”, etc. and a connection with youth, society, culture, and community. No doubt hip hop has transformed and transitioned into new movements and modes over the past 30 years, bringing about new sounds, new audiences, new schools of thought, what have you. And I think that was a goal. It's in a constant state of metamorphosis, and hip hop culture involves all types of people and ideas from all corners of the globe in this day and age.
So who is to say what real hip hop is, exactly? No one can pin point that, but we all know what we’re personally feeling at the moment, and what we’re not. It can’t be defined by one period in time, past or present. However, I think anyone who enjoys hip hop, whether it’s mainstream or underground, feels a connection to it and feels protective of it in a way, feels like it’s the best or what it’s all about.
Obviously, the leader (by popular vote) of mainstream hip hop right now is Lil’ Wayne , and his sound is THE sound of this particular mode. The majority of people feel the same way apparently. I don’t begrudge anyone who is doing their thing, making their money; and Lil’ Wayne is definitely doing his. I think a good point to mention is the fact that Lil’ Wayne , as someone mentioned before, is a sort of icon in popular culture. He is no doubt a good performer: he sells millions, makes millions, he’s everywhere all the time, and in essence he entertains. And that’s what the “majority” of people want right now: Entertainment. Whether or not he is a great, or dare I say THE GREATEST, emcee or rapper in the world is up for debate alongside each and every person’s own preferences and self-proclaimed knowledge of “good” music.
I refuse to believe that people are brainwashed. Though a scary thought, it’s just not the case. People may be stupid, but they know what they are doing with their disposable (or not-so-disposable) income. They may perhaps be oblivious to the overall picture, and maybe they don’t care, but they know what they want. And right now, in mainstream hip hop, folks just want to be “entertained”. Lil’ Wayne does that. And he obviously does it well. All the while proclaiming his greatness and garnering an expansive fan base that feels the same. Kudos to him, though I find it kind of strange.
I think the frustrating part for me is that I’m looking for something more from hip hop than a shiny entertaining package. A great deal of the time I find that "something else" in underground artists and sometimes I don’t. But many people just want something to nod their head to and shake their ass to in the car, in the club, and wherever else they see fit. So perhaps this new sound, this mode, this time in hip hop (at least in mainstream hip hop) is not exactly my vibe.
I take issue with rap artists perpetuating the same, repetitive, sound, and the same, repetitive lyrics boisterously pointing out the accolades of fame, fortune, and an endless buffet of drugs, pussy and bling. I know these concepts aren't anything new to hip hop. They’ve always been somewhere in there. I’m just baffled, or rather, bewildered that so many people don’t view this as tired, played out, old, and boring. YAWNNN. I guess if that’s what tickles your fancy. Yes, Lil’ Wayne may perhaps toss in a lyric or two that strays from the aforementioned. And yes, it’s danceable, it’s catchy, and doesn’t it have energy?! And perhaps ALL of his music doesn’t sound like it’s being played with a broken repeat button ALL of the time.
...But it does just enough of the time to warrant that kind of broken record imagery and that overwhelming lull that permeates the music of so many commercial artists today.
Clearly it’s not just him. It’s a good majority of the mainstream rap world. And when it all gets played OVER and OVER and OVER on your local radio station everyday, and the videos get played OVER and OVER and OVER to mtv and bet viewers and young people who feel the need to jump on a bandwagon, I don’t know, I don’t really consider that hot, new, or fresh. I just call that making money. Frankly, if I was Lil’ Wayne , I wouldn’t change a damn thing either. Actually, that’s not true, I would. But if it ain’t broke…why the hell fix it, right? When he cranks out a song that doesn’t really differ too terribly much from a previous one and people STILL lose their minds like it’s tears from God, I’m sure he, too, is slightly shocked, but quickly gets over that, rolls in the money, and says “well if you liked that one, here’s yet another!!” This is just my humble opinion. But maybe you do feel like he’s the only one out there really doing it, bringing something to the table. That’s cool. It’s just lost on me. Maybe my ears are broken. Maybe I’m just not hip enough to realize.
Also, because so many dichotomies exist within hip hop dividing and pigeon-holing people into groups (such as underground v. mainstream, us v. them mentality) it’s kind of challenging to pin point from what angle people are coming with their arguments. Some people see hip hop with a more ethical/moral/progressive/ “conscious” point of view, and if the music isn’t talking about something relevant, real, relatable to ordinary folk, then it’s not real hip hop, or it’s hip hop without a purpose, hip hop without direction, without individuality. Some people see hip hop as the bastion of what’s hot and what’s not, like trends in and out, and the newest biggest artist is the definition of hip hop greatness, giving the people what they want to hear, whether it has a message or just an ass pop-able beat. The former view is no more valid or significant than the latter. I just see them as facets of hip hop in its entirety, right now at this very moment. The cool thing about hip hop is that it can be everything all at once.
Like many of you, I just turn off the television or the radio if something comes on that I don’t particularly like. That’s life. However, I can’t go so far as to say I don’t give a shit. My life is definitely not all about hip hop, but I do care about what is going on because, like I said, I want to see/hear certain things from hip hop too and I think hip hop as a culture is very powerful, and can be very powerful. However, nothing will be phased out unless the majority of people want it phased out. And as for Lil’ Wayne, the icon, and Lil’ Wayne’s sound, well right now it’s here to stay because this is where people want mainstream hip hop to reside. I guess it’s just not my party train to ride at the moment…
But I’m glad you brought this up Blockhead. Even though I may not agree with absolutely everything you said, I feel where you’re coming from with this.

***Apologies for the length:)

Thank You

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 19:51 by: Sam Gurr (not verified)

More artists need to speak their mind on issues like this, everyone happy to say how fucked up hip hop is but few ever name names. Wayne's popularity is as much a mystery to me as it is to you. However as things go in cycles and Wayne pushes himself wider and wider (pause e.g. country awards) their is ultimately going to be a mass backlash.

How Dare You Blockhead!!!!

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 17:59 by: jiggyh8r (not verified)

How dare you steel the thoughts directly out of MY head and post them as your own blog... But man I do feel better now that I got all that off my chest though. Thanks Block!!

Also... I find it laughable how some L.W. fans are responing as if they are going to convince anyone, not to mention the author of the blog, that this sack of no talent is good for one reason or another. HA!

Thanks to Blockhead and Jux for giving us some real shit to listen to in a world where hip hop, in many cases, has become a watered down, over-marketed monster.

"The rhyme sucks...
The delivery sucks...
This fucking move, terrible, very old...
Look at me I'm going to dance for you now, look...
Dance to the rhythm and rhyme of CoFlow..."

Peace...

The Photos

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 16:24 by: defcon

Hey Everyone,

I have been responsible for the photos going into Blockhead's blogs since we started. Because it was something that sort of happened organically I had not made a point of putting a credit or a note to that effect.

However, as some of you have accurately pointed out, it is probably something that should not be attributed to Blockhead and accredited to the party responsible.

Thank you for your thoughtful commentary, we are always appreciative of your responses.

-The Editor

Lil Wack

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 16:16 by: Shay (not verified)

Someone on here made a good point about LW. It can't be helped how weak he is. The real problem isn't even the record companies in LW's case...seriously, the problem is that the fans are buying into the bullsh*t and hype! What happened to their garbage filters a.k.a. ears? The younger generation, and sadly, even some of us older cats are caught up in this materialistic, repetitive nonsense that LW is highly representative of. As Immortal Technique said, "f*ck the records you sold
'cause if you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck
it just means that a million people are stupid as f*ck." Well said, and absolutely truthful. Peace, ya'll.

get over it.

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 16:11 by: sean w (not verified)

people need to get a life. who cares who's popular? who cares why they're popular? who cares if they're good enough to be popular? this IS AN ISSUE OF POPULAR MUSIC, despite the disclaimer at the top. Li'l Wayne is really popular, and some think he doesn't deserve it, due to his bad lyrics, bad style, bad flow... etc! no one would write this if Li'l Wayne was just some street battler, but he's got a load of shit to back him up!

whatever the case, who the fuck cares? i definitely don't. if i don't like music, i don't listen to it. if i like it, i do. i don't care at all, what anyone else thinks, if i think something is good. i don't care at all, what anyone else thinks, if i think something is bad. arguments about whether an artist is good or bad are useless, because they're all biased from the start. i'm into music to listen to what is good. what i think is good IS GOOD. yea, i'm biased as well, because: fuck whatever you might say.

Finally...

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 15:55 by: s1rude (not verified)

...someone calls out Family Guy for the weak ass one note shit that it is. It ain't just hip hop, or music - pop culture is dead.

shit is racist

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 15:17 by: zip (not verified)

I agree that the hipster infatuation with it all is racist. Supporting any of these fake gangbangers is completly racist. Its kinda like the old vaudville guys with the paited face acts. Like we get a kick out of them completely humilitaing themselves. And at the same time its keeping the black youth stuck in the ghetto because they now belive the only thing to do in life is guns and diamonds.

I mean tell me 50 cent and Wayne don't look in the mirror and say question if all this money they are making is worth looking and acting like clowns.

That's why I REFUSE to

Posted on Sat, 12/13/2008 - 17:06 by: Anonymous (not verified)

That's why I REFUSE to listen or purchase anything affiliated with gangsta' rap. It perpetuates the plight of black youth.

Some people just need to be punched directly in the vagina.

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 15:06 by: miss_maple (not verified)

Here is where I have issues with some of the comments posted:

1. Why does how much money Lil' Wayne makes off of his "music" some how give him credibility as an artist? Hillary Duff, Linsey Lohan, Aaron Carter ect., ect., all make/have made a shit-ton of money from their "music." Does that automatically make them great artists? No! It is just an indication of the industry, in which those lacking talent or creativity can make a bunch of money from people to stupid to know better or those who have yet to be exposed/understand what real music, with real depth, is.

2. "Dont take advice from a rapper that claims hes the best rapper alive, no one likes a bragger." What the fuck does that have to do with anything? That is nonsense and would neither add nor take away from one's ability as an artist, only their character. Idiot.

3. How is Blockhead jealous of Lil' Wayne in any way? It is the type of comment you hear from a mom when her kid is being picked on at school. Sorry, the cool kids are not jealous of your child because he has no personality (and he is so obviously trying to be a version of himself that he thinks people would like rather than what he himself likes), they are just pointing out the obvious, they are fat, they smell, and if their mom would stop being so over protective and stop giving the kid shitty advice, he would grow his own personality and maybe have some friends.

4. The comment titled, "LIl Waynes Work Ethic Vs. Def Juxs," in which the individual argues that Jux, doesn't come out with the same volume of content (only every 2-3 years does something come out according to the poster of the comment) as Lil' Wayne and it thus, makes people less enthused about the music. This is a ridiculous argument for so many reasons. First, volume of content does not equal quality of content. Furthermore, it waters down an artist. You are perceived by your audience and if you put out 100 songs with 50 of them being shitty, but hey, you put out 100, you are still going to be perceived as shitty 50% of the time. However, if you only put out the 50 good ones, obviously, you will have way more respect as an artist (in the same way you shouldn't say 100% of what comes to your head). Two, Lil' Wayne has at his disposal a crap load of producers pawing to work with him and all he has to do is spit a couple shitty bars and pay day (not the mention the crazy amount of features he does). Now I am not going to say I know exactly what happens in Jux land, and that the process is the same with each artist, but I am sure there is a mutual process in which a producer or an artist comes up with a concept and they hack away at it from there. If you can't tell simply by listening, Jux beats (from the artists I listen too) are way more complex and time consuming to make than the average Weezy beat and you have to consider that (from my experience/knowledge) there are only 1, maybe 2 producers on an album. Also, it is bullshit to say you only hear something from an artist every 2-3 years, if you are on the Jux mailing list, you are constantly connected to new music and I know in the case of Aesop, I hear a new song from him every couple months. Furthermore, from what I see, Def Jux artist are hard workers (with Aesop on tour 90% of the year and all and always pushing himself artistically), but they also know how to have a good time, that is what (I perceive) keeps it from being a full time job and allows it to be something they enjoy being a part of. Also, fuck you, if you could do exactly what you want in life and be successful, while working with your friends, why would you try to fuck that up by only looking at the bottom line rather than artistic quality? The point of Def Jux (again, I perceive) is to show that you can be successful without being corporate and that, rarely if ever, does corporate allow such creative freedom. I am fully jealous of those guys, because at the end of the day, I can guarantee that each and every one of us sad fucks that have bothered to take time out of our day to post a comment, will never have a job so fulfilling nor will we ever be so creative.

In conclusion, most of the factors cited for why Lil' Wayne is so awesome have nothing to do with what qualifies him as an artist, only as an icon. I know that no matter how big of a musical snob you may be, there will always be a song or artist that, despite how shitty they are, you dig. That is fine, we all have one, or several, but to argue that they are great artist because their shit is catchy, is wrong. Take your pride out of this, just because you like someone does not mean they are an all around great/talented artist. Lil' Wayne embodies this principal, as does most of today's popular music. I think it is safe to say that in most cases, true artistic talent transcends genres and even thought you may not 100% like the style, there are other factors you can respect regardless of "your type" of music. For example, you may not like classical music, but you can respect that Beethoven was a fucking musical genius. This flows into lyrics as well, I think lyrics is the base of every artist (the ones that sing and rap and such) and what can separate between fine and phenomenal. Unfortunately, Lil' Wayne misses the mark in almost every aspect that defines a truly great artist (NOT what defines an icon you fucking idiots), the only thing he has going for him in the musical sense is that his shit can be catchy, again, not an indication of talent, and it could also be argued that that is not a pro (in the same way the song that never ends is catchy). It is depressing to me that such ignorant comments are coming from people who are apart of a scene that should make them know better, this is a Def Jux site, not Def Jam.

hater

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 14:39 by: Napoleon Mindstate (not verified)

lil wayne just like most hip hop/rap artists hit an miss, i agree at the rate he flood music it can get annoying but he does make some good music some of the time, and with him releasing so much music that some of the time is killing the work ethic of most emcees who drop a project a year an do a couple features. so i say quit hatin this guy listen or dont

Agreed,his music is super

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 14:06 by: Awkward (not verified)

Agreed,his music is super wack,flimsy drunk sounding bullshit.

best rapper in the world?...not when Mykah Nyne is still alive..no chance.

Agreed,his music is super

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 14:05 by: Awkward (not verified)

Agreed,his music is super wack,flimsy drunk sounding bullshit.

best rapper in the world?...not when Mykah Nyne is still alive..no chance.

Thank You Blockhead!!!

Posted on Tue, 12/09/2008 - 13:34 by: Duff (not verified)

Finally someone has the balls to say it. I was starting to think I lived in a parallel universe where everyone seriously thought this guy was Rakim or KRS. Thank you so goddamn much for calling this guy on his bullshit.

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