FASTER, POSSE CUT! CHILL! CHILL!: an (A)esop Rock and (B)lockhead conversation
Posted on 08/06/2008

Good People,
It's your old pals Aesop Rock and Blockhead, here to blog the shit out of you.
Ah... can you smell that? Know what that is? That my friends is the "posse cut". Perhaps simultaneously the best and worst idea ever, and not only in hip-hop, in anything. Obviously there have been some genre-defining hip-hop classics spawned from the gathering and subsequent wiling of a bunch of rappers trying to outshine each other. On a great day you get your Symphony's and Scenario's and Headbanger's and such - songs that smacked up worldwide rap fans from day one and still somehow continue to age better than the earthiest Gruyere in Morimoto's iron pantry (or refrigerator or whatever). On a bad day you may just get the absolute worst shit ever, and we're not talking about sliding into home whilst feeling something foam.
Simply put: more people on song = more variables = higher chance I gotta cross my fingers in the hopes that your weed boy's atrocious 16 is last so I can get my Edward Scissorhands on. Clip clip, douche-bag. A posse cut should really be one of three things :
1. A place for an already existing and recognizable posse to organize, show and prove.
2. A place where an established rapper can use his leverage to offer his homies a platform to show and prove.
3. A place where several recognizable artists of varying affiliations can voltron an inter-posse masterpiece together. And show. And prove, too.
The risk factor is always high, so the payoff can be pretty big either way. It's like watching Most Xtreme Challenge - sometimes failing can be just as entertaining as succeeding. That said, failing is more likely just failing.
So why all this posse cut jibbidda-jabbidda? We're here to bring you some super dope, somewhat obscure, occasionally terrible, and hopefully entertaining posse cuts from hip-hop's days of yore in our new co-written blog. We'll be trying to avoid the more obvious choices while taking a closer look at some things you may have missed along the way. Our general guideline is pre-2000 songs with 3 or more acts (solo or group) together on one song. Hopefully we can manage to update this regularly cuz we have been stockpiling a ton of gems. In the future we'll leave out this really annoying introduction and get right to the horn-looping and shit-shooting. Let's get this shite crackin'...
INSANE POETRY - Stalkin' With the Night Breed (featuring Tee Thee O.G., Evil 1, D.A.L., Shakespeare the One Man Riot, Joe Cooley, Mad Dog)- Nasty Mix Records, 1992
A - When we figured out the logistics of what this blog was gonna be about, the one thing we agreed on immediately was that this had to be the first song, which by the way is completely insane. Since it's origin for me was a xerox-covered Insane Poetry promo cassette that's been sitting in your tape collection unassumingly for as long as I can remember, maybe tell the people a bit about where this tape and group came from.
B- Well, back in the early 90's I was a tape buying fiend. One day I came across a promo of Insane Poetry's 'Grim reality'. This was during hip-hop's ill-fated (and short lived) horror core stage. I knew very little about them but it turned out they were a group from California. The rapper Cyco (pronounced "psycho") was an angry man. The a-side was 'The Grim Side' including song titles such as 'Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter' and 'Choppin' up Bodies'. It was the horror side. The b-side was the 'Reality Side' and it had all the non-serial killer songs. To be honest, I never really listened to that side. The song 'Stalking with the Nightbreed' was the last track on side A, utilizing the same loop EPMD used on 'Strictly Business', Cyco and his many weird friends got their chance to shine. And did they ever shine...
A - Yeah, there are so may quotables in this song and everyone brings their A-game to the table, so let's just jump in. Cyco does a great job playing host and introducing everyone. First up is Tee Thee O.G. of KMC (aka Kaotic Minds Corruptin'). "Once again it's the self-proclaimed lyrical body-snatcher!" THAT's the kinda shit we are on here. His blood-thirst is immediately apparent. Whether killing bitches at bus stops, or clearing out rooms with the "kadat-bo-boom!" of his trusty "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 mm", Tee really sets a Gangsta Nip-ish mood for the fellas to follow. Hype shit.
B - Next up is the 2 man group Death Blow, consisting of Evil 1, and D.A.L. (aka Dangerous Ass Lunatic). Evil 1 may be the first man in history to set off a verse with the exclamation of "SHIT!". His uncanny ability to fervently rap on beat for bars on end classifies him as the Q-tip to D.A.L.'s Phife Dawg. D.A.L. is probably the weakest link on the song, but still manages to shovel out jewels like.... ok D.A.L. is kinda wack. but his name is amazing and he keeps it moving.
A - Lucky for us, next up is an MC who bares possibly the greatest moniker in rap history - Shakespeare the One Man Riot stands out for his Sadat X-like ability to not rhyme very much while remaining engaging. His other abilities include "bending niggas like a paper back book", and chopping bodies so finely, one can fit 3 full grown men in one bag! Shakespeare's flow is precise and he sounds like a vet, which is good cuz that's a big name to live up to. Let alone the "one man riot" part.
B - Following the one man riot, Joe Cooley of not-so-famous Compton rap duo Rodney O and Joe Cooley , probably best/un-known for their seminal rap classic 'Fuck New York', arrives on cue. Cooley comes across as possibly the most polished of everyone here which is surprising considering he was more the DJ of his group, less the main rapper. He also manages to use the uber-caucazoid playground dis of "...NOT!" in a way that almost makes it sound intimidating, which makes sense being that he can bench 200 and is down to punch faces.
A - "Mad dog, Mad dog, puttin' niggas in a body bag y'all". Um... best rap chant ever? While Mad Dog's opening lines and delivery kinda steal the whole song, it becomes quickly apparent that he hasn't rapped much. What he lacks in charisma and confidence, he more than makes up for in style and substance. Let's be honest, he was just there.
B - Closing out this horrorcore-'scapade, Insane Poetry's flagship rapper Cyco allows himself 16 bars of gender-equality by vowing to murder both men and women. "Ding-dong... who is it? your next door neighbor bitch!". Cyco is a more than capable MC, and probably one of the more believable of the 6 supposed serial-killers featured here. I mean come on... "zip-lock casket?" yes please.
There's really so much one could write about this song but we gotta try to keep these blogs manageable. Please check out the song and feel the brutality for yourselves. Insane Poetry is ok by us.



Comments
Maddog
Posted on Thu, 09/18/2008 - 02:20 by: Hockeymask (not verified)
Duh fool maddog is the tightest dude on the track.. "Don't try to step cuz you'll get beat sucka, if you feelin froggish then leap motha-fucka!!" Obviously he grasped the concept of multies rhyming 'beat sucka' with 'leap motha', not to mention his intelligent wordplay with rhymes like "I just smile while I cut a motherfucka's throat, then watch him smile with a smile in the neck" Absolute genius.
Plus I think Shakespeare the one man riot "didn't rhyme very much" cuz he was too busy saying harder shit then anyone ever. If you notice all the places where he doesnt rhyme it's cuz he's saying something extremely tight with the illest delivery you could ask for. "Cuz I'm notorious for hog tieing motherfuckers, More bodys in my basement then the cemetary"
One more thing is your right about DAL being the weakest link but the weakest link out of this lineup is still obviously gonna be mad dope. I think your overlooking the fact that he uses the term "Demonweed"
PEACE
here and gone
Posted on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 08:41 by: Inf X (not verified)
Horrorcore never really got a chance, which is probably for the best considering it was really just a fad all along. Where did Gravediggaz really factor in its progression? I remember 6 Feet Deep (nix Niggamortis, as originally reported) coming out before acts such as Flatlinerz got any shine. (And even that shine wasn't much - Flatlinerz had that one 12", but does anyone remember actually seeing the album?) Smaller groups like this I was unaware of - how many other groups really constituted the "movement"?
On a semi-side note about horrorcore - was the Ill Bill who was down with Sha-Key and appeared on that Children of the Corn track the same as the Bill we know? Delivery's nothing alike, but the psycho-cidal violence is similar. (Twisting Coke cans into shanks, and whatnot.) This was back in like '94 or whatever.
P.S. - dope title for the blog.
here and gone
Posted on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 08:31 by: Inf X (not verified)
Horrorcore never really got a chance, which is probably for the best considering it was really just a fad all along. Where did Gravediggaz really factor in its progression? I remember 6 Feet Deep (nix Niggamortis, as originally reported) coming out before acts such as Flatlinerz got any shine. (And even that shine wasn't much - Flatlinerz had that one 12", but does anyone remember actually seeing the album?) Smaller groups like this I was unaware of - how many other groups really constituted the "movement"?
On a semi-side note about horrorcore - was Ill Bill who was down with Sha-Key and appeared on that Children of the Corn track the same as the Bill we know? Delivery's nothing alike, but the psycho-cidal violence is similar. (Twisting Coke cans into shanks, and whatnot.)
actually, the Gravediggaz
Posted on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 16:16 by: tomasz (not verified)
actually, the Gravediggaz album did come out as "Nigga Mortis" in Europe. we're just hardcore like that.
Not bad, especially when you
Posted on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 07:53 by: Jonathan (not verified)
Not bad, especially when you consider the date. I never really followed the horrorcore movement--I have the Gravediggaz first album and some of Rap-a-Lot's harder shit--but the joint was pretty good and even.
Joe Cooley surprised me because the Rodney O and Joe Cooley stuff I've heard (I own Fuck New York) is wack.
I think another posse cut worth reviewing is Heiro's "Burnt" off of the Mistadobolina single. The production, and especially the use of layers, makes the song worthy enough to be regarded as a classic.
I can't really think of a wack posse cut worth reviewing, probably because wack joints are always forgettable.
wow
Posted on Tue, 08/12/2008 - 05:07 by: redundatron (not verified)
wow
i haven't laughed that hard since the first time i heard eazy-e
thanks for passin that one along
Aes+Block=best in hip hop!
Posted on Sat, 08/09/2008 - 20:22 by: Anonymous (not verified)
ding dong who is it?
you next door neighbor bitch!
hahaha
shits classic
,
Posted on Sat, 08/09/2008 - 05:17 by: iabt (not verified)
Horrorcore is not dead. There is still Necro and Ill Bill, Psychopathic records. This is some oldschool deathrap/horrorcore shit. Theres so much more i need to learn. Teach me ace.
next track:
Posted on Fri, 08/08/2008 - 08:04 by: alex (not verified)
AOTP: "battle cry" off the torture papers album.. now thats a fuckin raw lineup right there
it's so hard to learn about
Posted on Fri, 08/08/2008 - 05:03 by: Daymare (not verified)
it's so hard to learn about hip hop now-a-days. Getting "lessons" from two of the most knowledgable and respectable people in the bizz is refreshing... thanks
haha nice. It's so sad that
Posted on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 19:11 by: buck williams (the Milwakkke kid) (not verified)
haha nice. It's so sad that horrorap turned into the Juggalo nation. Not like it had a whole lot of credibility, but you get what i'm saying.
is it?
Posted on Wed, 08/13/2008 - 00:29 by: solver (not verified)
is it really sad? i mean, where did you see it going? was it supposed to be taken seriously?
i think it's sad that icp [still, after 16 years and 10 albums] gets taken seriously in every way that they should be laughed at, and laughed at in every way they should be taken seriously. but whatev's. hate away. they don't need more fans.
keep 'em comming. i pressed
Posted on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 10:10 by: Anonymous (not verified)
keep 'em comming.
i pressed play and as the song progressed i read through the paragraphs you guys had written, it flowed perfectly with the music at the speed i read it.
and oh yeah that is the best fucking rap chant ever
-berry
left it to us
Posted on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 04:00 by: Anonymous (not verified)
next posse cut should be be "left it to us" haha
Wow! Insane Poetry!
Posted on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 23:56 by: Patrick (not verified)
Just amazing, imagine if Horrorcore really took off like Rick Ross, or for that matter Flo-rida putting' out an Obama anthem in the Horrorcore genre! Good? Bad? Does it matter? Its still amazing.
ha..
Posted on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 21:58 by: andi (not verified)
Nice, I kinda just stumbled over this after one of ya'll posted a blog about it on myspace. Way cool, I'm definitely going to have to read this blog regularly....
peace
Whats New Posse Cut? Not this track...
Posted on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 20:51 by: mend (not verified)
Ahhh 90's hip-hop. What a lovely time to listen to hip-hop. I (un)fortunately missed this west coast horrorcore jem, though I was suckered into purchasing the first Gravediggaz record. This reminds me of Mc Ren's solo record for some reason. I look forward to more of these superb dissertations on The Posse Cut.
metta~
Hilarious
Posted on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 19:47 by: The Brooklyn Boy (not verified)
Great idea, better execution. Looking forward to more, fellas.
fuck yeah...that shits
Posted on Wed, 08/06/2008 - 19:16 by: cory williams (not verified)
fuck yeah...that shits hot..thats some funny shit
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